> > Does everyone use es as a login shell ? > i have es (0.83 :-}) as my login shell in /etc/passwd at the moment, although some of the machines i use only occasionally still have /bin/rc. unfortunately, these days i spend about 90% of my time inside sam, so i hardly ever get the chance to play with es. :-( idle curiosity - which is more efficient: ~ $#var 0 or ~ $var steve