Re: who needs es..?

[Donn Cave <donn@u.washington.edu>]

| I think Steve is not far off the mark. Like most of the users on this list I
| started out very enthusiastic about es, but found that in day-to-day use it
| is too big and slow! 

That's definitely an issue with me.  Its features seem 95% oriented towards
programming, and they're all good features, but in practice I'm not sure
they pay off enough to justify the weight.  My understanding was that it's
being worked on, which makes sense - get the functionality worked out, then
do the optimization - but there may have been some basic design features that
will be hard to optimize to make it competitive with rc, for example garbage
collection.

| I'm not bothered about things like job control; I'd rather not have it, in
| fact, since I work in windowing systems or via multiple telnets from PCs most
| of the time.

I do too (work in X), but there's clearly no consensus that it's a substitute
for job control.  Let's not start that again.

	Donn Cave, University Computing Services, University of Washington
	donn@cac.washington.edu